that was short...
It was the Doctors office....and we are off to the hospital for TESTS tomorrow....CT scan...EKG...and a few others...So there goes those nice days off! OH WELL....things change around here...can't get to comfy even on the sofa for a nap!! LOL....I am learning to roll with the flow! Not such a bad thing to learn!
Monday...Monday...so good to me!!
Feeling Awake!!
Doing the Grandma's ROCK dance on Christmas Day...to what else...GRANDMA GOT RUN OVER BY A REINDEER!! LOL....But doesn't this just say it all about the holidays!! The joy...the laughter...the wonderment....Makes you feel very much AWAKE! (can't help but join in the fun!
Those little ones are contagious!!)
A giggle...
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A little giggle to you....from me...
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Another Day Down...
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL....................
Ho-Ho-Ho...
And without a doubt we are traveling once again back to the Doctors' office this afternoon to do the blood washing!! Not only today...but tomorrow also. I had held on to great hope that this would not be happening this week....I had hoped that perhaps the chemo cocktail would of done more work to slow down the progression of this protein....I had hoped that the holiday would be treatment free....But alas....A hearty HO-HO-HO to me!!!
Hugs...
What is it about the power of a hug? I still feel those arms of friends wrapped around me....I still feel the power of the feelings put behind those hugs....Now, some of the people that were at the party DO know what is going on...Some of them have no idea...So some of the hugs held a different meaning than others...but all of them brought powerful messages....Today, I wish that I could reach out and HUG all of you who come here....So if you would please...take your right arm and place it on your left shoulder....take your left arm and place it on your right shoulder...Now....squeeze...tightly
warmly ...and lovingly....CONSIDER YOURSELF HUGGED!
12 to 15 inches!!
I talked to a friend today who I have not talked to in a couple years (each of us having our lives filled with the wonder of grandchildren) and each of us taking care of the adversities in our lives...But nothing was different...We talked...we laughed...we told our stories to one another as if over a cup of coffee or a cup of tea....Two girlfriends separated by distance of space...but never distance of heart...
Today...I am counting my blessings....from 1 to 15!
(or from infinity and beyond....as Buzz Lightyear would say!!)
tired...
You know what they say....
Good...Bad...
I do not understand...how anyone I love so much could hurt me so badly...
The kindness of....
driveway was shoveled....I was getting ready to rip Michael a new one...thinking that he had done that! When I asked him if he shoveled...he said NO...someone in a snowsuit with a ski mask on did...My heart lit up...it was the neighbor across the street....a young 20 something man with 2 small children ...whose wife I was talking to the other day as we both retrieved our mail..She asked if Michael was OK as she had seen that he has not been going to work...and I told her a little of what we have been going through....And today, they reached out...from across the street with an act of kindness that made my heart swell....And then there is Terri who is an online friend, who is sending me some books...to help to remind me to take care of my own soul...and all who come here...friends that I know in real life...friends that I have come to know in cyber life...There is my Auntie M (who is really not related to me at all) but who has been my benefactor and life line on many occasions...My son...my daughter...My life long friends who support me with calls and cards....my family who has done EVERYTHING possible to ease my troubles...Special people who surround me with such kindness that I am overwhelmed...Special loves that support and send loving and healing light my way...
Nets that have been cast lovingly to catch me if I fall...Angels in the form of written words and heart felt deeds....Today....I am so aware of the kindness of others... Today...I am aware of the blessings that are in my life...
A different sort of day...
It has come to my attention that anyone who reads this does not really know what it is we are dealing with here...So I am going to try to give it to you the straight talk way....
Michael has a rare form of Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma (only about 1,500 cases per year are diagnosed)...He does not have any tumors but rather the B cell that is the lymphoma deposited itself into his bone marrow and forms a type of cancerous protein that takes over the majority of the space in his bone marrow so that the white cell...red cells and oxygen cells do not have room to be made. Thus, the white, and red cell counts are very low. This type of cancer is of the blood...He is at Stage 4 (out of 4) and has it in almost 75% of his body. There is no cure for this type of cancer and the chemo treatment is to see if perhaps they can slow the process down by stopping the B cell proteins from making themselves so quickly. That is one of the reasons that they do the blood washings...that removes the protein cells from his body for a few days and allows more of the white and red cells to be made temporally. In 1984 he was diagnosed with Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma and had tumors removed in his neck lymph glands...5 years later they felt good enough to say that he was cancer free....but the little devils had deposited themselves in the bone marrow and have slowly been taking over his body for at least 12 to 13 years (or so they believe) This is a slow growing cancer till it takes over (which is where we are at now) and then they label it an aggressive cancer...
Most Doctors do not choose to give a patient these days a death sentence...they believe that attitude has a great deal to do with how you progress with your treatment.(and Michael believes in this also and does not want to know anything accept for what day he needs to come for treatment and what treatment he needs done at the present time)..The main thing for Michael is just trying to control this cancer in some sort of way and so far it continues to rear its ugly head....We hang on....we go on...we try as hard as possible to do business as usual every day...We go one step forward...one step back...and then we step ahead....but we keep focused as much as possible on the day...So today, was not a good day...but tomorrow we hope will be better.
Doing things differently...
so now he has 3 different drugs that will be given along with the drugs he takes at home every day...The combination of drugs that they first started him on was not making a difference in the protein levels....they are hoping that this different "cocktail" will give him a better punch!! This will go on for the next 6 months (or so I have been told!) The thing that is NEW and DIFFERENT is that this drug takes 5 hours to be administered!!
So today, I sat with him for a while...and as he started to drift off to sleep...I decided that it was best that I did some things that needed to be done....I will return to the office for the final hour...but for me to sit there for 5 hours seems like just to long of a time...Today....we are BOTH doing things differently....
And the circle keeps turning...
Deck the halls....
It is a simple tree with an Angel that my sister made on the top and I love it...Almost all decorated in white and silver...So at night it looks very much like a tree that would be outside...This is the first season that I have had to do all of this by myself...I can't say that was much fun...but it did put a different feel into the house...A different warmth...When I do my affirmations in the morning I send out healing and loving thoughts to all that surround me...and with this season upon me I am now thinking that I need to widen those thoughts...spread it out a little more...send it to more and more people....I am not in the position this year to do some of the things that I have done in the past...but I am going to remember to pass it on more this year...the feelings of good tidings...saying hello to more strangers...smiling when I normally just go about doing the errand that I have to do...Wishing people a MERRY CHRISTMAS (which we all know is not politically correct!) allowing myself to open a little more and feel the joy of the season...
Feeling lonely...
Michael was sleeping in this overstuffed chair...Where he is most of the time...and today he had been asleep for most of the day and all of the evening...This feeling that overcame me was powerful enough to make me start to cry...I concentrated on what I was doing...and it washed over me again...Finally as I sat there I realized what it was...I was lonely...I like to be alone...I like the quiet and the solitude of my studio...I like the quiet of the night when I can type and paint alone without the noise that goes on with TV's or radios or cars and trucks going up and down the street...but this feeling was lonely...I have tried tonight to go deep within and find a place to put that feeling...and then I got an E mail...and that loneliness went away....I know I am not alone...I know that I am surrounded by love...well wishes...concern....caring...all wonderful emotions that I have to make sure that I keep close...keep treasured...focused on...So tonight I tuck that loneliness away...tonight I focus on the happiness that others bring to me...how they make me smile...how they lighten my load...and how much I am loved.
Got to love it...
Don't you just love it when you get a SIGN from the Universe that everything is just as it should be... even when you think it is not!!!.... Sometimes, when you're feeling your lowest, patricia, the real you is summoned.
And you understand, maybe for the first time ever, how grand you are, There is always a bright side. The Universe |
What do I know????
I understand all of this really....but, I am a logical person...and being that way I want to do things in a different way...My thought process tells me to get the bad stuff out before he ends up back in the hospital...But then I am the one that watches the difference the build up makes in not only his energy level but also his personality....As the build up becomes larger he almost becomes nonexistent...He sleeps almost all of the time and has no energy...Although the blood washing itself is draining...and only helps temporarily...that would be my choice...but then I did not go to school to be a specialist or a Doctor....so what do I know???? So I will follow the Doctors advice...I will WATCH...WAIT...AND SEE....while trying to be PATIENT!!
The beginning of another week....
Working with the VA...
The VA has taken good care of him....they have not walked away from this vet...but they cannot give him back his life either...The chemicals that they used over there hurt so many of our own...There are many men who are the same age as Michael who are suffering now....over 40 years later...Now, you could say that they were the lucky ones...they came back...they survived...they had lives that they led for 40 years...families...jobs...and all that is true...but today...I am just mad as hell that he has to go thru this ...all because he was a proud young man who wanted to serve his country....
HA! I DID IT AGAIN!!!
So I did it again another year...went out for 5 hours...shopping and laughing and singing carols...
And NOW...I am going to take a much deserved nap...smiling as I do so!! Life is Good!!! (to quote a friend of mine) Life is very good indeed!!
THANKFUL!
Here we are Thanksgiving Day almost upon us....and I am THANKFUL! Thankful for all the well wishes that I receive here and on the E mail...phone calls and cards. Thankful that I have this holiday to celebrate with my family. Thankful that we do not have to go back to the Doctors till next Monday...Thankful that my son made the trip here from Carolina to be with us. ..Thankful for the joy of laughter and good friends...Thankful for the small things every day that keep me going...Thankful for my art and creative life that feeds my soul...Thankful for LIFE...For all that venture here may you have a bountiful Thanksgiving...and take a moment to be aware of all the things you have that surround you to be Thankful for...My heart felt wishes to us all....
A Day off for GOOD BEHAVIOR!
The bad and the good in a day...
and they wanted him in right away...this catheter is a central line right to his heart...Once I quickly got dressed we were in the office by 11 AM....Then we were sent to the hospital where he was admitted as an out patient...they removed the catheter and then put a new one in...this is a permanent one...but we must also be very aware of the surrounding area of this one...When I tell you I had a difficult week...today was the one that I broke down on....I felt as if I could not take the responsibility of being the caregiver by myself...that I wanted to give it over...give it over to someone else for the day so I could of stayed in my pj's and drank coffee all day....but that feeling passed...I felt bad for thinking it...for saying some of it...I felt badly for speaking my truth....
But then I came home (after 3:00 ...so that means we were at the Doctors EVERY DAY THIS WEEK FOR AT LEAST 2 or more hours!)... I took a nap and opened up by E mail...and there amongst the mail was a note from a National Magazine saying that the purse my sister and I made and submitted was accepted for publication!! And they wanted a HOW TO MAKE THIS PURSE article ( you can see the tote here)....I have been published many times over the year...but this one HIT me....today...this is what I needed today! This one told me that my art heals me...this purse (or rather tote bag) that my sister and I made from my design was something I made for myself...from my mandalas and my affirmations... Something I can carry with me through the healing process of my soul... Something to remind me that my art heals my heart...my art nourishes my soul...my art holds me together and brings me great joy....I MUST remember to bring that love to myself....from myself....I must remember that I am important...I must remember to know that I have to honor who I am and what I love to do....ART HEALS....and this E mail brought that reminder running back to my soul after the bad of the day...
Yesterdays' scare...
What day is it anyhow????
It is good because it means we are passing days...that things are still going along and Michael, although not getting that much better he is still here and we continue to live...
It is bad because we seem to be missing things...not being able to do some of the little things that we use to do together...getting ready for the holidays...going to the toy store to pick out Christmas gifts for the grandson...going to the movies...sharing the responsibilities of the house...He also talks less to me...Sometimes I wonder if I am a ghost here...non existent except to do the mundane things of providing meals and clean clothes....I watch sometimes as he interacts with the people at the clinic who have a connection with him...who are fighting for life...and I watch as a different person comes out...the person with the quick wit and sense of humor...that laughs and puts people at ease...but as soon as we leave there the silence comes back...his eyes close and he withdraws back into his private world of illness by himself. Even though I ask what I can do to make this different he is unaware that he is doing this...almost as if he is blocking me out in some ways...
So today, I will concentrate on the little things for myself that will help me along...I will make a list of the things I need for the Thanksgiving menu...I will make a list of the things I will make for Christmas gifts and I will start that list...I will make a list....and I will check it again...I will make my plans....I will ask questions of him and try to get him involved...I will remain as steady as I can...I will walk into this day filled with sunshine and a dusting of snow with a smile on my face knowing that today...(whatever day it is!! LOL) I did the best I could!
Another Doctor Day continued...
Here is a brief description below...It takes about 2 to 3 hours depending on how the blood is flowing
and we will be doing this for 3 days in a row...and then perhaps chemo at the end of the week...
GOING TO BE A DOCTOR WEEK!!
Detailed Guide: | |
Plasmapheresis | |
A person having plasmapheresis can lie in bed or sit in a reclining chair. Two IV lines are required -- the blood is removed through one IV, and then is returned to the body through the other IV. Sometimes, a larger catheter is placed in the neck or under the collar bone for the pheresis -- instead of using IV lines in the arms. This type of catheter is called a "central line" and has both IVs built in. Plasmapheresis is not painful, but it can be hard to stay sitting or lying down in the same place for 2 to 3 hours.
Plasmapheresis works quickly to get the IgM level down to a safe level. However, without further treatment to kill the cancer cells (like chemotherapy) the protein level will go back up again. Plasmapheresis is usually given to help the patient until chemotherapy has a chance to work. Sometimes plasmapheresis is used for those whose Waldenstrom macroglobulinemia is not controlled by chemotherapy, biological therapy, or other treatments. When patients have symptoms from elevated IgM, they need to have plasmapheresis right away to prevent complicationsAnother Doctor Day....
life is precious and we must be aware of all the good moments. I made a coffee cake to take with me this morning...a little giving back some of the love that is put forth at this office...everyone is smiling and helpful and caring....We are meeting so many wonderful and loving people who are living with cancer...and although it is hard to see how many people are affected by this disease, you can also find a common ground to talk with people about...their children...their grandchildren...sports...and the loving of life....These are perhaps the most hopeful people I have ever met...these people who are living with cancer...these people who enjoy and worship their day just because they have another day ahead of them,even if they are doing their treatment...these people who give me a sense of LIFE...and a sense of LIVING...and a sense of LOVE unlike I have had in a very long time...
Nesting...
stuff that I can possible do!! Making lists...checking them twice...getting prepared for the holidays
that are before me....Nesting...making myself comfortable for the long winter ahead of me...Nesting
by changing my surroundings hoping that it will make a difference in how I feel. There is something about cleaning....I do it really BIG like this when I am in a funk...I clean because it takes little thought...and yet a lot of energy....I cook and bake when I am in a very good mood to show love and to share who I am with the ones I care about....Funny...the different things we do to make our self feel better...to make our self not think...to make our hands busy...to keep our hearts safe...to give...to get...to be....I am so aware of them lately....And I have been baking almost every day...and as fast as I bake everything is gone...so I bake again...I have NOT been cleaning as much till today...So the odds have it....I have been in a good mood MORE than a funk!! YIPPEE!!!!! Now, if I can figure out how to get the decorations down from the rafters in the garage I will be one happy girl!!
Something to think about...
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Here's something to think about. For the next day or two pay attention to the length of the different conversations you have . Make a mental note of how long each conversation lasts and whether it was about something negative or positive. When I did this, I discovered that I had about three times as many conversations about good things as bad things, but the conversations about the bad stuff were at least five times longer! If your family is like many of the families I know, you'll notice that you spend much more time discussing problems than you do discussing the positive experiences in your day. I'm not suggesting that we ignore our problems, but there's no reason that we can't have long conversations about the good stuff, too. In fact, research shows that the more people share the good events of their lives, the closer they feel. By rushing through our conversations about the highs of life, we are inadvertently teaching ourself that the lows of life are more important, more interesting, and more deserving of our attention! |
Reaching out...
Forced....
And is allowing me to catch up on some much needed sleep!
Off to join the circus!
that the visiting nurse would be there soon and I wanted to do these things in the morning and not later in the day (when he usually is so much more tired anyhow) but I still got yelled at...I still was the mean girl...I still did not understand...I still was taking things away from him...I still was.....So today....I wanted to get in that car and take the day and run off and join the circus!! Or at the very least find a spot where I could let whatever emotions come out that needed to come out so that I could face the world again....BRING IN THE CLOWNS!! I need a good laugh!!
Things I have noticed...
One step at a time..
Birth and Death...
Today, I received word of 2 new babies....2 brand new lives to grace this earth...to bring to us happiness...joy...and love. 2 brand new babies...my heart is full with the wonder of it....Today, I received word of 2 people dealing with a death of a love one....2 people gone who once held the love of others in the palm of their hands...who laughed and sang and enjoyed a good life...2 people who will no longer grace this earth....
Birth and death....they sort of go hand in hand...for each day we step closer to the end in reality...some comes quicker than others, torn from us before the time would allow all the love to be shown (My friend Carol has witnessed that....Lisa...Lori along with so many others) What is apparent to me today...is today is IT....use IT...love IT...enjoy IT...expose all you are with all the love you have...because today is the day that you have to do that in...
quiet...
I don't have to answer questions...(the blessing) and I don't have to answer questions (the terror) Now why is that????
I know that doesn't make much sense...but it does to me...sometimes answering the question "How are you doing?". Is a difficult one to answer...because most of the time...I don't know how I am doing! Which sort of makes me laugh as I type that!!(so what else is new...did you ever know how you were doing?!?! LOL) And then, when the phone doesn't ring...I wonder if perhaps my words are too much for people to hear...and yet I have to get them out...Oh what a circle!! So today, is a quiet day...Michael has been sleeping most of the day which means comes Monday when they do his blood work they will tell us once again that a blood transfusion is necessary...which tells me that things are not really any better...Hard to hold on to hope when that seems to be what happens...As the days drift into weeks I watch....I see the difference in his mood..in his temperament...in his body...His skin is starting to hang on his bones as his muscles break down...He has a difficult time walking and side steps a lot to keep his balance...And now there is a smell about him....I am not sure what that smell is or how to describe it to myself...but as I look into those green eyes I see something that was not there before...I see a murky film...a lack of sparkle...a vacant look...
And with this quiet day...I have a sense of fear...I know that I am not the only person who has ever gone through something like this...I know that I am not the only person going through this at this very moment...but today, in the quiet...I feel very much alone.
Somewhat Normal Day...
My heart goes out....
My heart goes out to my very good friends in Baltimore who are dealing with several family problems...I wish I could be there for my friend, Lori to make a cup of tea and have a cookie or two so that she could take a moment for herself as she faces the medical problems that her husband, my good friend, Marc is going through....My heart goes out to a friend who has a 4 year old grandson who just was diagnosed with cancer...My heart goes out to Pat in Atlanta (and Lisa) who has a son, a young father who has been very ill, but continues to fight the good fight (and yet she took the time to write me to sooth my soul)...My heart goes out to all the families that I see in the Oncologists office as they sit silently with their loved ones (of all ages) ... My heart goes out...My heart goes out to my friend, Chris who has difficult decisions to make...
Perhaps I have not been aware of the things that have been going on around me before now...perhaps they did not hit me the way they have before now...perhaps my heart is growing with compassion for others as well as myself...perhaps my eyes are being opened to my surroundings more...My heart is going out today....I am sending positive energy and healing light ...I am sending love and compassion to all who need it today....And I am going to focus my energy on the wonderful things of life today...the little things...the one thing that will make me smile...the one thing that perhaps will make me laugh... I am going to focus my attention on LIVING rather than on dying....My heart is going out today to all those in need...and I will be more gentle even with myself...
Making a come back...
FREE cup of coffee...
What is my job????
Tell me something I don't know!! Now....I am not MAD...I am frustrated...So...What is my job???
My job is to educate myself....My job is to find out as much as I possibly can to become an informed caregiver...My job is to know what questions to ask to get the answers that I need...My job is to be a cheerleader...My job is to be a chief ...cook...and bottle washer....My job is to be the strength when the chips are down...My job is to take care of paperwork...housework...bills...home repairs...My job...is to give unconditional love....(That is the most important job of all!)
In this day of so many law suits against Doctors I understand their need to cover all the bases...I understand that when dealing with cancer there are those that survive (even against all odds) and those that do not...( I am a cancer survivor for 22 years now) I understand that faith and hope are the corner stones of most peoples recovery or with their ability to live with cancer. I understand all of this....but as I sit here tonight....I am wanting to have some straight forward answers....How many times do we do these treatments? How long do we have in between each round? What are the other options that we have? What should I be prepared for? These are questions that my good husband does not want answers for...So it is my job...to find these answers out to ease my mind...to let me be better able to care for him....and cheer him on!! That is my job also....PHEW!! To many jobs if you ask me....Can I turn in my time card?!?!? And do I get overtime?!?!? ....Tomorrow as I sit for the 3 hours as he gets his blood transfusion...I bought a new book to read...TWILIGHT ...Hope it is a good one...thought it was appropriate...it is about vampires!! At least I still have my sense of humor!!
Sick...
Side Effects...
Taking Care of Myself...
Mostly I am finding that I am giving up...giving away...the things that mean the most to me...WHY? Why am I doing that? Because it doesn't seem somehow right that I should have some happiness in my life? That because my good husband can't do the things that he use to love that I should play the martyr and deny myself the things that are important to sustain me? That I should sit on the sofa and watch him as he sleeps? Making sure he is breathing properly...
I do not believe that I am the only person who does this....But WHY??? Why would I give up all the most important things...the things that bring me happiness...the things that feed my soul...
the things that allow me to LIVE LIFE FULLY...Why do I feel guilty for not being sick?
Who does this help??? It certainly does not help me to be strong...to believe...to love better...to hold on tighter....So today, I pull out the drawing pad...I pull out the paint...and I start to do a project that has been in the virtual making....Today....I am taking care of myself...at least for a little while...without ANY GUILT!! (at least that is what I am telling myself at this moment!!)
First you cry...
And today....I am thinking about that....But I did not cry first...First I was in SHOCK....and it wasn't till many weeks later that I cried...and NOW...NOW...as I sit patiently trying to read my book...watching as a poison is being administered into the veins through a catheter in my husbands neck...I am MAD....because there is little I can do to help...because there is no cure for this type of cancer and this is more of a band-aide than anything...because as I watch him go through this treatment I also watch my life changing before my eyes...because sometimes it just doesn't seem fair (as selfish as that thought is)... because the road ahead is paved with rocks that I am not sure I can maneuver around (and that makes me feel weak and helpless)...As I sit patiently once again through another day of blood transfusions (he gets these once a week) ...watching as my husband closes his eyes and allows himself to sleep...perhaps to dream that things will turn out with a miracle (they do happen you know he tells me) and once again the 3 hours slowly drifts by and I have continued to read the same lines over and over in my good book....and then...just then...when I think I can't go on another minute doing this...being the caregiver....he opens his eyes and looks over in the direction that I sit (because he can no longer clearly see) he smiles...and he tells me that I am a good wife...that I have been a good partner...that we can get through this...that things will somehow be alright...and then....then I feel the salty tears...And then I cry...softly...silently as I reach for his hand and tell him....Yes....Yes we can! (and I hold on to the hope and miracle that he holds in his heart...and we are one)
Funny Face Glasses...
THANK YOU FOR BEING PART OF MY LIFE....
Now, I know there will be some people who think this is NOT acceptable....But for me...for me right now...It certainly made me laugh even amongst the tears....It certainly made me know why it was that I fell in love with this man in the first place...For he certainly has made me laugh more often than not over the past 27 years....And I do celebrate his life today as we surround our selves with the littlest of loves our 3 1/2 year old grandson (almost 4 MOMA!! his name for me!!)
and smile and laugh throughout this day....May you also find something that brings a smile to your face today....For it fuels your soul.
No One Knows...
No one knows how long we each have on this earth...Every given moment someone is losing a loved one...The one thing we do have is this moment...right here...right now...to sooth, display, comfort, and show the love that we have within for the people that we love.
Sometimes we harbor things...past things where we felt "wronged" by someone...we put them in a place without letting go...knowing fully well that we are all human...we all make mistakes...we all hurt people without meaning to...Today...I let go of some of my past hurt in order to be more present for the "LIVING" that we are doing....And although this living is not what we are accustomed to....it is still a time to find the love...the humor...the joy of life....
So today, my feet...my husband's feet...hit the ground....Today...I vow to be present...to show my love....today, is a GOOD DAY!
The first of many thoughts...
A blog where I will not be posting art...but rather I will be posting rambles from the shadow side of life...About living...about living with dying....This is where my heart will pour forth...this is where my shadow will be exposed...this is where I will cry...where I will laugh...where I will become one with that shadow of life...
Today, I start this new blog...
to open up...to expose...to try to understand...to vent...to scream...to reach out...to accept...to challenge...to be heard...
Today, I start this new blog...
From the shadow side of my life...